Saturday, November 15, 2014

Why the difficulty?

We experience  so much violence, pain and sorrow within families and outside. But we never question our conduct. We just go about our routine activities, nothing changes, nothing is questioned, but the anarchy, sorrow and violence continues within and outside, we never realize or doubt that the cause could be our conduct. Why? Accumulation of wealth and pleasure,  appearing in different forms,  is behind almost all our activities, takes all our time and has tremendous attraction. Is this urge so powerful than the enormity of the violence and so we ignore it? Or problem is of different dimension? Is it the continuously flowing interplay of physical and psychological, real and abstract?

While we exist in physical space, but the accumulation urge is in abstract space as thought. As we move continuously between physical and abstract, we may not differentiate between  physical and abstract and so take the accumulation urge happening in abstract as real and continue with that. This is how physical occurrence may be continued in abstract, a physical thought occurring may be continued in abstract and it becomes the 'I'. Wealth and pleasure seeking is in mind, even their existence is in mind, but we live it as real. As we live more and more in abstract, whatever happens in abstract becomes more and more real. So, we have become numb to the pain, sorrow and violence in real. The pain and sorrow in real is followed next moment by rights and wrongs, wealth and pleasure.

This is how, we are fooling ourselves. With assumed enemies. With presumed antagonistic situations. With preoccupations. With wrong identity, false occupations. With ghosts. And becomes addicted to accumulation.

Ownership of 'thoughts and all that happening' as ours, is that also a problem? Depending on the need of the physical, thoughts and the other may happen to it. Why should it be taken as 'my thought'? Because it is taken that way, we are duty-bound to continue that.

Can we test it out for few hours, not owning any of these and treat those as happening to us?

From the known to the unknown - JKOnline Daily Quotes

How is this transition from the denial of the known to the unknown to come into being? How does one deny? Does one deny the known, not in great dramatic incidents but in little incidents? Do I deny when I am shaving and I remember the lovely time I had in Switzerland? Does one deny the remembrance of a pleasant time? Does one grow aware of it, and deny it? That is not dramatic, it is not spectacular, nobody knows about it. Still this constant denial of little things, the little wiping's, the little rubbing's off, not just one great big wiping away, is essential. It is essential to deny thought as remembrance, pleasant or unpleasant, every minute of the day as it arises. One is doing it not for any motive, not in order to enter into the extraordinary state of the unknown. You live in Rishi Valley and think of Bombay or Rome. This creates a conflict, makes the mind dull, a divided thing. Can you see this and wipe it away? Can you keep on wiping away not because you want to enter into the unknown? You can never know what the unknown is because the moment you recognise it as the unknown you are back in the known. - Krishnamurti, On Education Talk to Teachers Chapter 4

Your Struggle is the Human Struggle

Your Struggle is the Human Struggle - JKOnline Daily Quotes

A total, an enriching revolution cannot take place unless you and I understand ourselves as a total process. You and I are not isolated individuals but are the result of the whole human struggle with its illusions, fancies, pursuits, ignorance, strife, conflict, and misery. One cannot begin to alter the condition of the world without understanding oneself. If you see that, there is immediately within you a complete revolution, is there not? Then no guru is necessary because knowledge of oneself is from moment to moment, it is not the accumulation of hearsay, nor is it contained in the precepts of religious teachers. Because you are discovering yourself in relationship with another from moment to moment, relationship has a completely different meaning. Relationship then is a revelation, a constant process of the discovery of oneself, and from this self-discovery, action takes place. So, self-knowledge can come only through relationship, not through isolation. Relationship is action, and self-knowledge is the result of awareness in action. - Krishnamurti, What Are You Doing with Your Life?

Self-Knowledge Is a Process

Self-Knowledge Is a Process - JKOnline Daily Quotes

So, to understand the innumerable problems that each one of us has, is it not essential that there be self-knowledge? And that is one of the most difficult things, self-awareness - which does not mean an isolation, a withdrawal. Obviously, to know oneself is essential; but to know oneself does not imply a withdrawal from relationship. And it would be a mistake, surely, to think that one can know oneself significantly, completely, fully, through isolation, through exclusion, or by going to some psychologist, or to somepriest; or that one can learn self-knowledge through a book. Self-knowledge is obviously a process, not an end in itself; and to know oneself, one must be aware of oneself in action, which is relationship. You discover yourself, not in isolation, not in withdrawal, but in relationship, in relationship to society, to your wife, your husband, your brother, to man; but to discover how you react, what our responses are, requires an extraordinary alertness of mind, a keenness of perception. - Krishnamurti, What Are You Doing with Your Life?

Saturday, October 25, 2014

There Is No Place at Which to Arrive

There Is No Place at Which to Arrive - JKOnline Daily Quotes

Can humility be practiced? Surely, to be conscious that you are humble is not to be humble. You want to know that you have arrived. This indicates, does it not, that you are listening in order to achieve a particular state, a place where you will never be disturbed, where you will find everlasting happiness, permanent bliss. But as I said previously, there is no arriving, there is only the movement of learning and that is the beauty of life. If you have arrived, there is nothing more. And all of you have arrived, or you want to arrive, not only in your business, but in everything you do; so you are dissatisfied, frustrated, miserable. Sirs, there is no place at which to arrive, there is just this movement of learning which becomes painful only when there is accumulation. A mind that listens with complete attention will never look for a result because it is constantly unfolding; like a river, it is always in movement. Such a mind is totally unconscious of its own activity, in the sense that there is no perpetuation of a self, of a "me," which is seeking to achieve an end. - Krishnamurti, J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life

Sunday, October 12, 2014

Cast off by outer and inner worlds

Cast off by outer and inner worlds
Oct 11, 2014 06:30 PM , By VANDANA GOPIKUMAR 
Alone... Photo: Thulasi Kakkat

These men and women were born in homes like you and me. They aspired for a bright life like you and me. Somewhere down the line, their lives changed, as they were deprived of what you and I continue to enjoy — life, health and personhood. And then their narrative changed.

Friday, October 10, 2014

Energy Creates Its Own Discipline - JKOnline Daily Quotes

Energy Creates Its Own Discipline
To seek reality requires immense energy; and if man is not doing that, he dissipates his energy in ways that create mischief, and therefore society has to control him. Now, is it possible to liberate energy in seeking God or truth and, in the process of discovering what is true, to be a citizen who understands the fundamental issues of life and whom society cannot destroy?You see, man is energy, and if man does not seek truth, this energy becomes destructive; therefore society controls and shapes the individual, which smothers this energy. And perhaps you have noticed another interesting and very simple fact: that the moment you really want to do something, you have the energy to do it. That very energy becomes the means of controlling itself, so you don't need outside discipline. In the search for reality, energy creates its own discipline. The man who is seeking reality spontaneously becomes the right kind of citizen, which is not according to the pattern of any particular society or government. - Krishnamurti, J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life

Wednesday, October 8, 2014

The Interval Between Thoughts - JKOnline Daily Quotes

The Interval Between Thoughts
Now, I say it is definitely possible for the mind to be free from all conditioning, not that you should accept my authority. If you accept it on authority, you will never discover, it will be another substitution and that will have no significance.The understanding of the whole process of conditioning does not come to you through analysis or introspection, because the moment you have the analyzer, that very analyzer himself is part of the background and therefore his analysis is of no significance.How is it possible for the mind to be free? To be free, the mind must not only see and understand its pendulum-like swing between the past and the future but also be aware of the interval between thoughts.If you watch very carefully, you will see that though the response, the movement of thought, seems so swift, there are gaps, there are intervals between thoughts. Between two thoughts there is a period of silence that is not related to the thought process. If you observe you will see that that period of silence, that interval, is not of time and the discovery of that interval, the full experiencing of that interval, liberates you from conditioning or rather it does not liberate 'you' but there is liberation from conditioning. It is only when the mind is not giving continuity to thought, when it is still with a stillness that is not induced, that is without any causation, it is only then that there can be freedom from the background. - Krishnamurti, The Book of Life

Tuesday, August 26, 2014


. 6 year old girl raped in a bangalore school.

. Malaysian Airlines plane MH17 with 298 passengers shot down in Ukraine.

. Ordinary man, extraordinary heart....Dashrath Manjhi, constructed a 360 feet long, 30 feet high and 25 feet wide passage through Gehlour hills with a hammer, chisel and nails working day and night for 22 years from 1960 to 1982. His feat reduced the distance between Atri and Wazirganj blocks of Gaya district from 75 km to just one km, bringing him international acclaim.

. Palestinian death toll crosses 1000 in Gaza, mostly innocent victims consisting of women and children.

. Iraq: Shia shrine blown up.

. Ordinary man, extraordinary heart.....tracking one man’s journey into the land of giving.....When M.S. Bagai’s wife Sudhira died in 1980 of cancer, Bagai decided to support the drive for early detection of cancer in slums and urban outbacks. He began the Sudhira Bagai Charitable Trust with just Rs. 500. Bagai has since raised money to educate the children of a paraplegic soldier, provide milk to children living in the shelter of Safdarjang Hospital in New Delhi, buy medicines and milk for sick sadhus, and for a dozen other causes in a list that keeps growing.

. U.S. evacuates Libyan embassy amid clashes.

. Ordinary man, extraordinary heart....Jorge Munoz is a school bus driver by day and an angel by night. Every night for more than 5 years, he has gone home and cooked food for hundreds of people on his old stove. He then goes to a street corner in Queens, New York and feeds those that are hungry. He does this with his own money because "it's the right thing to do".

. Taliban kill 15 in Afghanistan.

Thursday, July 3, 2014

We think we relate.........and there is the unexplored world beyond words

"We  are relating only as abstract. Complaining against a particular act in a relationship is meaningless, as it is the abstract which acted, not the person. Abstract cannot be different, as that is its structure and it can act only that way. All the problems in relationships are of this nature only. It is action of 'the abstract', not the individual person"

In every relationship, it's only functioning. We think we relate. Its only the abstract. That's why there are problems. Does it mean that only abstracts are relating and no relationship beyond that?

The underlying factor is physical. But the operational part is abstract. It is abstract 'me' interacting with another abstract. Most of the time, the physical initiate the process, it is abstract which is operational, as that is our only functional tool. The physical is your son,  daughter, father, husband, wife, but the abstract is not. That's why it is in to all kinds of nasty, stupid actions.

We gather information about a person we meet,  store it in memory.  That information directs our interactions with him and also by the information freshly gathered. So, we are relating with that information, not with the person sitting across. If this is understood, even in the limited space of profession and business,  relating will be devoid of anguish and disappointment. We are engaged mostly with thoughts which is an abstract. We go by abstract state and don't live in feeling state. ("I mean by that word feeling, not sentiment, not emotionalism, not mere excitement, but that quality of perception, the quality of hearing, listening, the quality of feeling -a bird singing on a tree, the movement of a leaf in the sun. To feel things greatly, deeply, penetratingly, is very difficult for most of us because we have so many problems. Whatever we seem to touch turns into a problem."-K).

We live in a massive universe of unimaginable proportion. The abstract world we live in is minuscule. Almost all relating is abstract. Even though started being in physical,  all our relating is in abstract, whether it is with a son or a daughter or a husband or a wife. We start from being in physical, once we start talking/thinking, we slip in to the 'abstract verbal' subtly. WE LIVE IN ABSTRACT almost all the time. It is astonishing.......the full impact of it.....but beyond the abstract, possibility of different relating is would have seen that also many a time....the unspoken acts....

Getting upset with spoken words/shoutings....those are from the abstract of the person....also to the abstract of a person.....all relating is abstract....all professional and business acts are abstracts...but beyond the abstract, possibility of different relating is would have seen that also many a time....the unspoken acts....

Lost myself almost, lost a dear-one nearly, come across the whole world burning in selfish pursuits all the time. No communication possible and every past contribution, good deeds are forgotten in the milieu of present abstract engagement. Then why am I still engaging in abstract conversations? And what am I waiting for? If what's happening to me are messages, worser things could happen, are happening. When there is no tomorrow, why can't I live in the present? Is it rocket-science to see that thinking is behind all the anarchy and violence around us? Is it rocket-science to see, no thinking there is no violence? Is there violence in a mother's love or a father's responsibility? Is it true that we exist only moment to moment? Is it true that each nano part set the next?

The 'particular', being material, makes movement necessary. The 'restlessness', the insecurity of being alone  in an unfamiliar environment,  the utter necessity to be 'safe', 'under control' situation, being restless till the situation, environment is under complete control is the basic building block of the 'me'. That restlessness only seeks companion of a tv, movie, book, cigarette, time-pass food, etc.

Communication is a problem.  Even a casual civilized conversation is a problem on an issue.  The moment it's an issue,  we are alert to be defensive and the casualness goes. Its obvious as our living is in abstract. Then why try? Don't.  Just act. Don't talk.  When there is need for verbal communication, just communicate, don't try and have an elaborate discussion. To have order in day today living, establish practices which will take care of it.

Relating happens only in non-verbal a space which is beyond words...Why don't we look at the real being in our interactions? Directly relating to the energy.

This will be aided by just going about work without any thought about results. As long as my work takes care of my need, why should i worry about my assumed-reward?